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first snow. which is always exciting. unfortunately, not really nice snow. much too wet, and it's drizzling snrain too, so no wandering through the night, the crunching muffled by the way fallen snow subdues all sound. which is my favourite thing to do in the first snow.
tomorrow i have to leave the house because we're out of catfood.
i don't really want to do anything but sit here, watch BSG, and spin theories. well, except that the show is also turning me into a bloody shipper. ghod. i don't want to be a shipper!
and i especially don't want to be a kara/leoben shipper. that's just ... sick. but something in me wants to write about the sort of destiny that can handle what happened between them. really, i don't have a god complex. i don't know why my mind is spinning thread about this; it should instead squick me in so many ways. (i've watched up to season 3 episode 2: precipice.)
the only thing i can think of that would have lee so totally DONE with kara, since he's managed to forgive her for just about anything else, including some stuff that boggles the mind, would be, i think, if they finally somehow consummated that long-simmering push-pull love (and i don't just mean have sex, because the unresolved sexual tension isn't what gets to me here, it's the unresolved romantic tension -- but since this is tv, there's got to be sex), and she then rejected him because she's such a total commitment phobe when it comes to him.
i don't quite see how they get there, since they're now both involved with other people, and i don't see either of them as casually cheating. but they're also both screwy enough about their r'ship to do it with each other, while they probably wouldn't do it with anyone else. maybe something emotional happens that has them alone somewhere. that's not a big hurdle. i think the writers have built up to this carefully by slowly increasing the intimacy level and having either of them back off each time at the relevant moment, the biggest one of those being in scar. i think kara is totally convinced that she is a screw-up and bad luck, and should stay far away from the second adama after she indirectly toasted the first (and hey, made a good attempt at killing the second one as well), but that her resistance has been getting worn down for all sorts of complicated reasons. so maybe she finally gives in and they have sex and tell each other that they do, in fact, love each other. and then kara wakes up and oh ghod, the remorse and the panic. like, lee is now doomed, unless she gets away from him right quick. away, and to sam, for whom she is not a screw-up, but his saviour.
if i wrote this, that's what i'd do. and i'd have her run off and marry sam in an impulse vegas wedding complete with matching tats, without telling lee, and then spring that on him upon returning, akin to her sorry performance after returning from the SAR mission with sam. and while he could forgive that after stewing for a bit, it's a different hurt to be rejected when you've actually never really admitted out loud that you have these feelings for somebody, as opposed to when you've laid it all on the line and felt they were mutual and everything was going to be different now. i think that could do lee in for good. shit, my heart cramps just thinking about it.
that feels overall very satisfying from a "tragic lovers" viewpoint, and fits totally with her MO. the thing that doesn't fit is how tigh would know anything about this, and moreso, sound like he's actually on kara's side. i don't think tigh would know that they've done the deed. i imagine nobody would know; they don't confide these things to anyone generally. so maybe there is a public part to this, where lee explodes (as he is wont to do when jealous) and does something very nasty to kara professionally, and that's all people know about the rift? it'd have to be something that would push tigh to kara's side, so it's gotta be fairly major.
well, enough kara/lee angst. i just had to get that bit out of my system. :) i wonder how long i have to wait before the flashback for this; i am absolutely positive there must be one. if not, i'll scream.
the relationship i least want to see anything about: cally and tyrol. *ick*. can we please make that un-happen?
but what i really really want to know, how the hell did we get from considering cylons mere chrome toasters to letting them marry humans? that implies an acknowledgment of them as people equal to humans that i sure didn't see coming just yet. this is usually a big deal in SF, but here we've got mrs #8 agathon without so much as a by-your-leave? maybe that's what the public rift is about, kara is pro #8's marriage, lee against? but would tigh be pro? i can't see that.
*ungh*. i am trying to ration the shows i've left to watch because i've just got 6 left now before catching up. maybe i'll find out something tomorrow!
tomorrow i have to leave the house because we're out of catfood.
i don't really want to do anything but sit here, watch BSG, and spin theories. well, except that the show is also turning me into a bloody shipper. ghod. i don't want to be a shipper!
and i especially don't want to be a kara/leoben shipper. that's just ... sick. but something in me wants to write about the sort of destiny that can handle what happened between them. really, i don't have a god complex. i don't know why my mind is spinning thread about this; it should instead squick me in so many ways. (i've watched up to season 3 episode 2: precipice.)
the only thing i can think of that would have lee so totally DONE with kara, since he's managed to forgive her for just about anything else, including some stuff that boggles the mind, would be, i think, if they finally somehow consummated that long-simmering push-pull love (and i don't just mean have sex, because the unresolved sexual tension isn't what gets to me here, it's the unresolved romantic tension -- but since this is tv, there's got to be sex), and she then rejected him because she's such a total commitment phobe when it comes to him.
i don't quite see how they get there, since they're now both involved with other people, and i don't see either of them as casually cheating. but they're also both screwy enough about their r'ship to do it with each other, while they probably wouldn't do it with anyone else. maybe something emotional happens that has them alone somewhere. that's not a big hurdle. i think the writers have built up to this carefully by slowly increasing the intimacy level and having either of them back off each time at the relevant moment, the biggest one of those being in scar. i think kara is totally convinced that she is a screw-up and bad luck, and should stay far away from the second adama after she indirectly toasted the first (and hey, made a good attempt at killing the second one as well), but that her resistance has been getting worn down for all sorts of complicated reasons. so maybe she finally gives in and they have sex and tell each other that they do, in fact, love each other. and then kara wakes up and oh ghod, the remorse and the panic. like, lee is now doomed, unless she gets away from him right quick. away, and to sam, for whom she is not a screw-up, but his saviour.
if i wrote this, that's what i'd do. and i'd have her run off and marry sam in an impulse vegas wedding complete with matching tats, without telling lee, and then spring that on him upon returning, akin to her sorry performance after returning from the SAR mission with sam. and while he could forgive that after stewing for a bit, it's a different hurt to be rejected when you've actually never really admitted out loud that you have these feelings for somebody, as opposed to when you've laid it all on the line and felt they were mutual and everything was going to be different now. i think that could do lee in for good. shit, my heart cramps just thinking about it.
that feels overall very satisfying from a "tragic lovers" viewpoint, and fits totally with her MO. the thing that doesn't fit is how tigh would know anything about this, and moreso, sound like he's actually on kara's side. i don't think tigh would know that they've done the deed. i imagine nobody would know; they don't confide these things to anyone generally. so maybe there is a public part to this, where lee explodes (as he is wont to do when jealous) and does something very nasty to kara professionally, and that's all people know about the rift? it'd have to be something that would push tigh to kara's side, so it's gotta be fairly major.
well, enough kara/lee angst. i just had to get that bit out of my system. :) i wonder how long i have to wait before the flashback for this; i am absolutely positive there must be one. if not, i'll scream.
the relationship i least want to see anything about: cally and tyrol. *ick*. can we please make that un-happen?
but what i really really want to know, how the hell did we get from considering cylons mere chrome toasters to letting them marry humans? that implies an acknowledgment of them as people equal to humans that i sure didn't see coming just yet. this is usually a big deal in SF, but here we've got mrs #8 agathon without so much as a by-your-leave? maybe that's what the public rift is about, kara is pro #8's marriage, lee against? but would tigh be pro? i can't see that.
*ungh*. i am trying to ration the shows i've left to watch because i've just got 6 left now before catching up. maybe i'll find out something tomorrow!
In case I haven't mentioned
on 2006-11-28 01:47 (UTC)Re: In case I haven't mentioned
on 2006-11-28 13:17 (UTC)Re: In case I haven't mentioned
on 2006-11-28 15:21 (UTC)[spoiler for beginning of season 3 BSG]
One bit of analysis I've found intriguing about New Caprica (goes back and makes sure you're actually where I remember you being) is that many of the characters get exactly what they thought they wanted--but it's all wrong and twisted. Humanity gets to stop running, they get Baltar as a president, Kara gets a home. Adama gets facial hair and /nobody/ wanted that. I don't think the theory holds up across the board, but I found it an interesting perspective -- especially to keep me from shipping kara/leoben
BSG backstory
on 2006-11-28 10:47 (UTC)There are also podcasts available for each episode. After you get caught up with season three, you must MUST watch all the video blog episodes, especially the ones about the Peabody award. (The one where Katee Sackoff is caught in a "candid" moment berating David Eick for getting her pregnant is priceless. These people are very, very warped.)
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/index.php?cat=webisodes&vid=29339
Re: BSG backstory
on 2006-11-28 13:17 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-11-28 23:14 (UTC)I've been nowhere near as hard-thinking as you about BSG, and I put this down simply to the fact that she left the fleet--since, as screwed up as she's sometimes been, she's never really lost her commitment to Galactica. As a viewer I was surprised that she chose to be one of the settlers (surprised in terms of her character, though I wasn't surprised in terms of the writers wanting to do this to make for a more interesting later plot). For Lee, whose relationship with her has been strongly intertwined with both of their relationships to Galactic, it would seem to be an abandonment and betrayal of family and mission and who she is (or who he thinks she is), I think.