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hahahahahhahahahahahaha! yeah, right. the "official IQ test" says so!

Testriffic IQ test


also, your bad image matte looks horrible on my background, people.

[edit: requires account creation in order to see results. stupid.]

there was one question i liked (addendum -- i liked it because it got me to thinking in contorted ways, while none of the other questions were any fun at all):

determine the missing number: "car, glove, clock, sock," "4, 5, 12, ? "

on 2006-08-14 19:16 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rahaeli.livejournal.com
See, this is once again why my brain does not work well on standardized tests, as I can make Right and Good cases for the missing number being 0, 1, or 5.

on 2006-08-14 19:44 (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] firecat
Happily, only one of those appears as a choice in the test!

on 2006-08-14 19:48 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rahaeli.livejournal.com
....the one I think is *least* logical as an answer. Wow.

on 2006-08-14 19:55 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vanbeast.livejournal.com
I couldn't make cases for any of them. Care to explain your reasoning?

on 2006-08-14 20:00 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
i'll do the 5 since that's the one that appears in the test (and presumably the answer considered correct):

car, glove, clock, sock
4 tires, 5 fingers, 12 hours, 5 toes

on 2006-08-14 20:07 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] vanbeast.livejournal.com
Oh of course, that makes sense. I ended up picking 17 (or whatever) because the series was ascending :P

I'm not good at this particular class of problem.

on 2006-08-14 20:41 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dragon3.livejournal.com
I picked 17 in protest because the question was bent, at least from my way of thinking. While most cars have 4 tires, etc. Most socks don't have five toes, either inherent or contained. Most socks aren't toe socks and most socks are in sock drawers rather than on feet.

Tests like that one are entertaining...

on 2006-08-14 20:08 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rahaeli.livejournal.com
Sure. :)

So I take a look at "car, glove, clock, sock," "4, 5, 12, ? " and immediately think: a car's got four wheels, a glove's got five fingers, a clock has 12 numbers. I can see what they're aiming at -- they want to know how many of a certain thing a sock has. Question is, what's that thing. "car" and "glove" both fit into "appendages", clock semi-sorta does -- the numbers on a clock aren't exactly appendages, but whatever -- so that leads me to 0, because a sock doesn't have any appendages; it's one continuous surface. "glove" and "clock" both fit into "parts divided into", "car" semi-sorta does -- the tires on a car aren't the only parts, but whatever -- so that leads me to 1, because a sock has one part, for the toes to go into.

The 5 is the biggest stretch for me, because in order to get there, I'd need the pattern to be composed of "things covering up or enclosing a thing which has this number associated with it", because a sock doesn't have five toes; it encloses five toes. And "clock" and "car" don't fit that. I think the test is just going for a much more generic "numbers associated with this item", but like I said, my brain doesn't work the way standardized tests work.

on 2006-08-14 20:29 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
yeah, i do that, and it's always, always, always overanalysis for standardized tests. while working at ETS, it was really interesting to listen to the people who were writing the questions, and the sort of thinking they went through. quite a number of them actually were highly analytical.

"they want to know how many of a certain thing a sock has" is the key thought. since the tests almost never go into anything esoteric, it's usually safe to just go with the most generic level of "things". i retrained myself to do that, but i can only say that i am glad i no longer have to take standardized tests.

on 2006-08-14 20:34 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rahaeli.livejournal.com
But a sock doesn't have five things! It covers a thing with five things! A sock has no things, or possibly one thing. And I know it's overanalysis for a standardized test, but trust me, it's the first thing I think of -- I have to significantly dumb my thought process down to even come close.

(The evil standardized tests are the ones written by people who know that people try to overcomplicate, and put those answers on the test.)

on 2006-08-14 20:46 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
a sock has 5 things very similar to a glove has 5 things, no? -- 5 bits of it stick out. a glove covers hand-with-fingers like a sock covers feet-with-toes, except the glove doesn't enclose entirely. i'm knitting a sock pretty much like i am knitting a glove, minus the heel. :)

i would have had a harder time with the clock.

on 2006-08-14 20:49 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
oh wait! now i see it. i'm thinking of a very specialized sock (the ones with toesies), while generic socks are nothing of the kind. *duh*.

you're right. it becomes totally non-obvious then, and 5 is the least logical answer. i wonder whether it's even correct.

on 2006-08-16 20:00 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] huashan.livejournal.com
"car, glove, clock, sock," "4, 5, 12, ? "
The average car contains 4 passengers.
The average glove contains 5 fingers.
The average clock contains 12 numbers.
The average sock contains 5 toes.

And the reason the sock question isn't "the average sock contains one foot" is because we're given the answer that they want the average glove to contain 5 fingers.

I actually had to train myself to think this way to get through school doing standardized tests. I had a tremendously painful period in my life where unfortunately I constantly responded "Not necessarily..." to almost every statement by anyone. Luckily I not only grew out of it relatively quickly, I learned to think of the alternatives and pick the one that was most likely the one normal people were looking for.

on 2006-08-16 22:10 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
The average car contains 4 passengers.

hahahahahaha! HOV lane designers everywhere have nightmares of this coming true.

on 2006-08-16 23:12 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] huashan.livejournal.com
Well damn, they aren't the ones into whose hearts I'm attempting to inject unbearable fear. It's the SUV designers I'm after.

I meant "is built to contain" but I've been thinking about that, and with the ridiculous numbers of SUVs on the road it may not be true.

on 2006-08-14 20:49 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rahaeli.livejournal.com
But a glove has five things -- the five fingers-of-the-glove covering the five fingers-on-the-thing-the-glove-is-covering. The sock doesn't, unless you get those footie socks (which I totally hate, but that's neither here nor there).

(My brain considers "glove" and "sock" separately from "hand" and "foot" -- you might be able to see where I'm coming from if you think of it lying flat on a table, not *on* something.)

on 2006-08-14 21:00 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
my "sudden insight" comment crossed with yours. :)
http://pleonastic.livejournal.com/191353.html?thread=854393#t854393

on 2006-08-14 21:02 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] cakmpls.livejournal.com
I'm with you. It's a stupid question.

Besides what you've pointed out: A clock doesn't necessarily have 12 numbers. A digital clock has either 10 (0-9) or a Whole Bunch (12:00-11.59, and more if it counts seconds), depending on how you look at it. An analog clock might have 4 (12, 3, 6, 9) or none--I've seen both--and possibly some other combination.

Stupid question.

on 2006-08-15 19:08 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ebourland.livejournal.com
I think the question is flawed for just the reasons you say ... fingers are enclosed in the glove, numbers are printed on the face of the clock, wheels are attached to the car underneath its carriage or frame ... so the physical locations of things, and the (usual) numbers in which they occur, threw off my thinking.

I like the question anyway b/c, as pleo said, it gets me thinking in twisting ways.

Seebling!

on 2006-08-14 20:18 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] wcg.livejournal.com
Image (http://www.testriffic.com/iq/)

on 2006-08-14 21:07 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
Wait, are you saying that 5 was the correct answer for sock?! Or don't you know.

Man, I hate self-rolled "Official" IQ tests with the heat of ... something really hot. I remember one that had a pictures of a screwdriver, a pair of scissors, a hammer, and a hand saw, and asked which one didn't belong. I chose scissors, because in the others the handle is non-metallic but the "working end" is metal. Their answer is that "hammer" is the only word that doesn't begin with the letter "s". Ah, the perils of being two standard deviations smarter than the person who wrote the fricken' test.

I hope you got caught up in the meme a few months ago where there was the IQ test except that the results inverted your score if you viewed your LJ from an IP address other than the one from which you took the test. The person who ran that won the internet.

on 2006-08-14 21:17 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] king-tirian.livejournal.com
Evidently not smart enough to log in before posting comments, though.

on 2006-08-14 21:21 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
*cackle*.

on 2006-08-14 21:20 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
i strongly suspect 5 is the presumed correct answer for that question, because i can't make anything fit with the other options.

nope, didn't see the one you're referring to (don't do a lot of memes), but it sounds like delicious fun.

on 2006-08-14 21:48 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] velochicdunord.livejournal.com
I am a mere Regional Genius.

For all that that's worth. ;D

on 2006-08-14 21:54 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mayaknife.livejournal.com
Yet another annoying IQ test.

For the "car, glove, clock, sock," "4, 5, 12, ? " question I found two perfectly legit answers, both of which were on the list. The first quoted section contains 4 words, 5 vowels and 12 consonants. It also contains 17 letters overall and 7 punctuation (commas and blanks), both of which are on the list.

For "truculent, fierce, tumultuous,
[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<don't>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

Yet another annoying IQ test.

For the "car, glove, clock, sock," "4, 5, 12, ? " question I found two perfectly legit answers, both of which were on the list. The first quoted section contains 4 words, 5 vowels and 12 consonants. It also contains 17 letters overall and 7 punctuation (commas and blanks), both of which are on the list.

For "truculent, fierce, tumultuous, <don't recall>, placid". You could make an argument for placid as the only non-aggressive term. Or you could make an argument for tumultuous as the only one which is not a term normally applied to people.

I also hate tests that don't let you see the answers afterward so you can figure out where you went wrong.

on 2006-08-15 00:12 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] aquaeri.livejournal.com
I decided that if they showed you the "real" answers, everyone would just give up in disgust.

on 2006-08-15 05:17 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] tigertoy.livejournal.com
If they showed you the real answers, people would cheat so they could say that they got the highest score. (Who knows, maybe a lot of people really are stupid enough to fool themselves that way.)

on 2006-08-15 07:26 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] aquaeri.livejournal.com
When I was in about eighth grade, we had a multiple-choice science test which one of the kids somehow had seen the answers to (briefly). So a lot of kids got surprisingly high marks. I didn't know about the "official answers" and under my own steam got 28/30.

However, I managed to convince the science teacher that he'd got the wrong answer, and I had the right answer, for both those questions. (I don't think anyone who had his answer was penalised.)

So yes, I totally agree there are people who care more about matching the "official answers", but they're not me :-).

on 2006-08-16 03:21 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] aquaeri.livejournal.com
Now I've been reading this page (http://www.pingmag.jp/2006/01/18/construction-worker-fashion/) the correct number associated with socks is clearly two.

on 2006-08-16 12:55 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] treiglad.livejournal.com
I wish they'd said _before_ i went through the 18 questions that i'd need to create an account before I could get my score. So I dunno how smart I am because I refuse on principle to create spurious accounts on sites I'm pretty sure I'm not going back to...

on 2006-08-16 22:02 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dr-brat.livejournal.com
*I* think that makes you a galactic genius.

on 2006-08-16 22:11 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
oh yeah, sorry -- i meant to mention that in my post, but forgot.

i create fake accounts with abandon. they want to make me jump through silly hoops? here, have some bogus data.

hmmm...

on 2006-10-11 09:29 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
it's not really an IQ test though is it?? more a series of general knowledge questions...

anonymous

on 2007-03-24 21:14 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
you know that this "standardized test" was standardized for teenagers on myspace

its not a good test for general iq

especially if your smart... (myspace)

i got 127 but im 14

!& its !& you your heads

on 2007-06-29 21:04 (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
If you want to get really out there, the answer could be 17. "car, glove, clock, sock" has 4 words, 5 vowels, 12 consonants, and 17 total letters... and the other three numbers are 4,5,12, so you could argue for 17.

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