Nov. 6th, 2012 21:58
piranha: red origami crane (Default)
[personal profile] piranha
romney is making his concession speech, and he is actually being quite gracious. while karl rove is probably still being talked down from the ledge of bullshit mountain. i can sort of understand, because this was nowhere the nailbiter the republican echo chamber and the media aching for a horse race predicted. over so soon. sweeping nearly all the swing states. and republicans are getting hammered in their senate races as well (please, may michele bachmann lose too; that would put the icing on my schadenfreude cake).

what REALLY has me excited is that it was a fine day for my people. in maine and maryland, gay marriage ballot measures have passed, prop 74 is leading in washington, and minnesota struck down a state constitutional amendment to enshrine the "one man one woman" concept of marriage. openly gay, progressive tammy baldwin was elected to the senate.

nate silver's statistical model, vindicated. karl rove's "statistical" model, shown for the piece of shite he is. uh, it is. ahhhh.

will the republican party wake up now and become less extreme? not holding my breath, but it would be nice. maybe necessary. though i am wondering now whether they're not making themselves increasingly irrelevant in a changing electorate.

al jazeera wasn't quick with any projections, but i really enjoyed their coverage; it had no high drama from attention-whoring pundits, just relatively courteous discussion. glenn greenwald was very much... nicer in person than he is in writing. it was interesting.

on 2012-11-07 10:28 (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] graydon
It's the county map that says it, really; US politics are getting even more rural/urban split.

I don't imagine that this will become less extreme, because there's no alternate identity available on the Republican side.

One could think of it as a coming-out process; there's a ton of dis-satisfaction and discontent and people increasingly vehemently insisting that they are so the way they say they are, and it'll stay that way until there's a general understanding that there's a less discontented, more honest option.

on 2012-11-07 14:35 (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] wild_irises
[personal profile] graydon isn't far from where I am. The Republican party has an essential problem, what the Marxists call a "rotten bloc." They are the party of the rich and the party of the white poor, and their two constituencies have really really different values, needs, and concerns. However, they have been able to paper over that issue astonishingly well.

I think the underlying point is the "broad mandate" point that Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen at Politico made so excruciatingly badly last week. (If you haven't seen this, scroll down to "Democrats have a liberal problem.")

We will never have the kind of broad mandate in this country that the Politicos are calling for, until and unless more white men realize that they are no longer in the majority and they don't run the world (even if they do own the world).

on 2012-11-08 01:57 (UTC)
necturus: 2016-12-30 (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] necturus
Oh, the Republicans will wake up, sure enough. They'll be reclothing their true agenda in something that will make them look "kinder" and "gentler", in the words of Bush the elder. But they'll never stop seeking to concentrate money and power in the hands of the super-rich, for that is their raison d'etre. They've been slowly transforming Republic into Empire for the last 40 years; I can't see them quitting just because of yesterday's bump in the road.


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