piranha: red origami crane (Default)
[personal profile] piranha
lots of people seem all atwitter about the rumour that "six apart" (the "movable type" company) is buying LJ. and, this being LJ, the drama is already surpassing all sanity.

here's what i think after reading a lot of speculation about how this would affect LJ:

i'll believe it when i hear it from one of the principals.

i think brad's biggest problem doesn't have to do with business, but with people skills, and i don't see how LJ users have suffered from brad's business decisions. on the other hand, six apart just made a really dumb kerfluffle about its license when 3.0 came out, and caused a mass exodus to other weblogs. so how this would automatically be good for LJ's business side, and why the average user would think an improvement would be in zir favour, i don't know.

volunteers versus paid employees doesn't IME say anything about the quality of the work produced, so people who expect that six apart would dismantle the volunteer support system in favour of paid employees are indulging in lots of wishful thinking. six apart relies a heck of a lot on users of their system to help other users, it's simply less formalized than what LJ does. i actually think LJ's support system is quite good in comparison with many others i have seen, and better than quite a few staffed with paid employees.

some people claim MT is better than LJ -- i've used both on my own server, and i wouldn't say that. it's different. the code is horribly clunky in places just like LJ's, and it does a lot less and is slower. (i haven't used 3.0, and i ditched MT for wordpress, so who knows, maybe it's since gotten much better.) i don't think there'd be a wholesale shift to MT anytime soon. in fact, it might go the other way around. one of the best things about LJ, however, is that it's open source, and MT isn't.

"OMG, they're going to remove free accounts!" -- say what? if six apart wants LJ because of its large userbase, it would not make sense to remove free accounts and make the service much more expensive, as i've seen people suggest. that would only cause a mass exodus to DJ or some other site who'd gladly take advantage of millions of people, a small percentage of whom will fork out $2 a month for a pretty decent service.

oh, and we're not talking about a huge conglomerate here; the company started in 2002 and has about 40 employees. i see no reason why they would make the LJ community "go to shit". uh, any more than it already has. if there is even such a thing as one single LJ community -- i don't feel that there is, i think the days of that are long past. and while it may be hard to believe for somebody whose first close online community was LJ, there are lots of great online communities out there just waiting to be found, should this one go totally down the drain.

on 2005-01-05 19:06 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sinboy.livejournal.com
They'll remove free accounts?!? THANK GOD! Millions of annoying teen angstmeisters *gone*. Trolls once banned, would have to *pay again*!

I love the idea!

on 2005-01-05 19:17 (UTC)
arie: (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] arie
Then after that they'll bring back codes and IT'LL BE THE APOCOLYPSE THE APOCOLYPSE I TELL YOU.

*cough*

I'd have to agree that dropping half the userbase in a mass exodus to DJ, GJ, etc. couldn't be anything but a good thing. ;)

on 2005-01-05 19:15 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] janetmiles.livejournal.com
i'll believe it when i hear it from one of the principals.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks, piranha.

on 2005-01-05 19:21 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] erin.livejournal.com
God. Thank you for posting this. I'm so tired of everyone freaking out and getting irrational about this whole thing.

on 2005-01-05 19:52 (UTC)
arie: (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] arie
But it's so much fun to WATCH. It's got that whole train-wreck factor. You never know what's going to happen next!

on 2005-01-05 19:31 (UTC)
ckd: small blue foam shark (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] ckd
I'm feeling pretty much the same way: "I'll believe it when it happens, and it probably won't matter much anyway".

If it does, I just hope they kill #@% TypeKey and let us use LJ accounts to sign in to TypeKey-enabled blogs.

on 2005-01-05 19:40 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] kightp.livejournal.com
I'm with you on the "wait till I hear it from the horse's mouth" thing ... but I'm also reminded that it's time I bopped over to LJBook (http://www.ljbook.com/) and made an updated .pdf of my journal, Just In Case.

(My own nightmares on this count have less to do with change than with disappearance due to technical failure or other causes. I've stopped keeping paper journals entirely since coming over to LJ, and wouldn't want to lose the work).

on 2005-01-05 19:46 (UTC)
jenett: Big and Little Dipper constellations on a blue watercolor background (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] jenett
I do know that there've been at least a couple of journalists who've done articles on the site, and as part of that submitted support questions.

When told that support is almost all volunteer, they apparently went. "Really? You guys were not only faster than most commercial services, but the info was better, too."

(I'm with you on the rest of it: just thought I'd mention this bit.)

on 2005-01-06 04:14 (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] brooksmoses
A fair bit of Stanford's computer tech support was, for a long time, handled by having the questions posted to a public newsgroup. Paid staff would answer questions when the in-person help desk was slow, but (when I followed the group) a large fraction, perhaps a majority, of the questions were answered by random volunteers. As a result, we were definitely faster than an all-paid staff could have been, particularly after hours -- random CS students will be reading newsgroups at 2am, paid staff won't. And answering su.computers.consult questions was good procrastination for homework.

(For that matter, it was also valuable just to read it; chances are that answers to a common question were already there on the newsgroup, so one didn't have to ask. And I learned quite a lot about the systems from answering questions on the group -- as well as making many good friends.)

But, eventually, someone decided that the help system needed reorganization, and with the reorg came a new ticket tracking system, and with that came the end of gating questions to the public newsgroup.

on 2005-01-05 20:11 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] huaman.livejournal.com
Indeed! This one is but a poor, pale shadow of the online communities I used to love. Most of which went utterly to shit ages ago and even I ended up giving up fighting for 'em after a while, and moved on bit by bit, occasionally running across some of the same folks and staying friends with a relatively small number...

on 2005-01-06 05:33 (UTC)
ckd: small blue foam shark (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] ckd
It's official news now.

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