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my OLPC xo arrived, gifted by the *poing* (v-hugs the *poing* again, since the real thing has to wait another 4 weeks). it arrived for the second time, because the first time it came it wouldn't boot and tech support told us we had to send it back to be fixed (i do hope this doesn't happen to too many kids; somebody really ought to at least turn these things on before they ship them out).


but this time it booted, and we're both having fun exploring it. it is much smaller than my mind's eye imagined it, maybe because i always saw it either pictured alone with nothing for scale, or in the hands of kids. it is very cute because of that -- in the picture it sits in front of a 19" monitor. the rabbit ears are not just cute, but fulfill two functions -- rock on.

first impressions:

aside from being cute and colourful, it's very sturdy, easy to carry, has rounded edges, texturized covers, and a small keyboard with a membrane, so no crumbs can lodge between keys, and i bet the occasional spill won't hurt it either -- it does look and feel very kid-friendly.

the "sugar" paradigm will take a little to get used to (sugar is the core of the xo's interface); it's not intuitively obvious to me. the first thing we did was figure out how to get a linux prompt. :) the keyboard being kid-friendly means it's not friendly for adults with large fingers -- but mine aren't that big; lucky.

the screen is a marvel, very easy to read under all sorts of strange conditions which are often deadly for regular laptops. the xo is a little large and heavy to make the ideal ebook reader, but it's no worse than handling a big hardcover (better, because it doesn't flop around); i read about 200 pages last night without problems.

the reader is simple but has sufficient features for me at this point, and it's easy enough to get or convert books into pdf format -- i downloaded something from baen's free library in rtf format, opened it in the mac's textedit, and "printed" it to a pdf file. file transfer can be done over the network, or via a USB stick or SD card.

it's great fun so far. i am feeling urges to write stuff for it.

on 2008-03-15 02:26 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] desert-dragon42.livejournal.com
We got one for Jay's mom. Maybe you could give her some pointers.

on 2008-03-15 03:14 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
What kind of pointers would interest her? Does she know about http://en.forum.laptop.org/ (official OLPC forum; a fair number of developers) and http://olpcnews.com/forum/ (unofficial forum; 1500+ users)? Where does she live? There are active user groups in DC, Boston, etc.

on 2008-03-15 07:03 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] desert-dragon42.livejournal.com
She lives in Kansas City and is very, very much not computer literate. We were hoping this system would be simplified enough for her to learn on. Unfortunately, it did not arrive in time for us to take with us when we visited so we had to ship it to her. She's pretty lost with it right now.

help in kansas city

on 2008-03-15 07:45 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
there is a small yahoo group, so there's some interest in KC: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/xo-kc/

i doubt i can give her pointers as easily as a local geek. :)

on 2008-03-16 03:32 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
Has she tried the getting started guides? Can she open/use the Browse activity to look at them? What one type of activity might interest her the most -- web browsing (/email), camera/movies/sound, ...?

on 2008-03-15 02:37 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] hobbitbabe.livejournal.com
ooh! that means that by the time I get mine you'll know your way around it!

I can't wait.

on 2008-03-15 06:52 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] daev.livejournal.com
Is it true that you program it in FORTH? I read that somewhere, and thought it nifty beyond belief.

on 2008-03-15 07:38 (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] brooksmoses
Mostly one programs it in Python.

However, a bit of Google-searching does indicate that the bootloader (Open Firmware) is written in Forth, and if you push the right button while it's booting, it will drop you into a Forth shell to poke around.

on 2008-03-16 03:18 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] daev.livejournal.com
So you can reprogram it from the ground up, starting with its firmware. Woo woo, crit crit.

I found a tutorial on FORTH for the OLPC (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Forth_Lesson_0) on line, too.

FORTH?

on 2008-03-15 07:39 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
i think the firmware is in FORTH... yeah, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Firmware.

so far most of what i have come across seems to be in python, which is apparently encouraged as the primary language for development (so as to facilitate code sharing for the kidlets who want to learn programming). and then there is the smalltalk development system as well, which looks really cool at first glance.

on 2008-03-15 12:10 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] janetmk.livejournal.com
Oh fun! Cute and clever. I've had a chance to admire [livejournal.com profile] selki's.

Looking for e-books to read? As part of a promotion for a shiny Web site (http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010044.html#010044) under development, Tor (as announced on Making Light) has been offering a series of free e-books to those who've registered. This week it's Farthing. Others that I got links to as an advance subscriber include Old Man's War, Spin, and Mistborn. Tor's e-mail for each free e-book says it's OK to forward the email with link to another person (though there's no guarantee that the free e-books won't go away after a few weeks).

on 2008-03-15 12:54 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] platonios.livejournal.com
Thank you very much for the link! I'll definitelly visit it!

TOR's new shiny

on 2008-03-15 22:03 (UTC)
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Posted by [identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com
:) already been signed up since the start. looking forward to the new site now that patrick has sprung that this is what the ebook promotion is for. (that was a very funny post, too.)

on 2008-03-15 23:51 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] aleksandrajabla.livejournal.com
thank you so much [sorry for being rude and had replied to you since i'm a stranger] i'll go there too XDDD

on 2008-03-15 12:51 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] platonios.livejournal.com
Hehe, cogratulations to the poing, for keeping you happy and entertained!
Had to pay a visit to wikipedia as I first interpreted OLPC as OLdPC which was peculiar and didn't make much sense...
I mean who would be happy to get an old pc?
also on the picture it looked brand new!
or who manufacturer would refer to his product as old, excluding the case of antiques and wines?
and then you mentioned kids so I suspected I was down the wrong path. Image

WOW, I've heard about this project sometime around 2005-06 and then forgot all about it as it seems Image...
Really good news that they went through with it, Greece is intersted in this project also and at some point is supposed to hand them out to schools, will see...

Oh, I liked your idea of using it to read ebooks as I prefer reading on my screen than from books. I find it tiring to turn pages, especially when I'm reading on fast-forward mode and want to jump around! scrolling down it is the way...

Have a nice weekend, off to prepare some lunch.

on 2008-03-15 14:36 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] flarenut.livejournal.com
I love mine, although the interface is weird enough that I can't yet use it to replace a real laptop for travel. (But I did get it to talk to our local WPA network, which was in doubt at first.)

on 2008-03-16 03:30 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
Which part of the interface? If the native browser's bugging you, there's an Opera release specifically for the XO (let me know if you want it but can't find it). OTOH, the Journal for file/version management, with search/tagging instead of hierarchy, can take some getting used to -- though I love it.

on 2008-03-16 03:34 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
p.s. sorry if geek answer syndrome is annoying to you; I get enthusiastic about the laptop.

on 2008-03-15 23:48 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] aleksandrajabla.livejournal.com
good for you enjoy XD it so pretty small and cute i feel love 4 it

on 2008-03-16 00:58 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pyrzqxgl.livejournal.com
Hurray!

I still don't have mine, but the last update I got (in February) said middle to end of March, so hopefully one of these days ...

on 2008-03-16 06:50 (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] firecat
We have one, my folks have one, the OH's sister's family has one...maybe a few even made their way to developing countries.

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