to mark foley
Oct. 3rd, 2006 21:25![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
piranhago away.
i don't want to hear that you've been abused by a clergyman when you were a young teenager. i don't even know whether to believe you. i think you've handily grabbed onto the best defense you could find -- blaming your actions on somebody else abusing you when you were a child. because who wouldn't be horrified at that, who wouldn't feel for you? somebody else infected you with teh gay! couldn't have just sprung up on its own, could it. certainly not in a republican. yowza.
i tell you who wouldn't feel for you. this survivor of child sexual abuse. this one who dragged zirself through the initial humiliation of admitting the shame to a counselor. who worked zir ass off to overcome the cycle of abuse and violence. who never laid a hand on another person without their consent, who developed a consent fetish, who to this day makes damn sure any advance, even just a geek-flirty one, is wanted. who is worried about the very first geek-flirty ones because they might impose discomfort on the other person. who wouldn't dream of coming on to a teenager. not because they're "children" -- they're not. not because sex is dirty -- it's not. not because gay sex is an abomination -- it's not. but because i have some bloody self-control and know what is and isn't appropriate.
you bastard. shame, shame, shame on you. even if you were abused. that's no excuse. you have been an adult for years. you should have fought against trying to do the very thing that was (maybe) forced onto you. you should have sought counseling (whether or not you had been abused, when you felt the first stirrings of making out with 16-year old boys over whom you had power). but no; you had to screw around with them instead. you had to abuse your position of power to make advances on people barely old enough to handle themselves in normal sexual situations for that age. they did well, you know? they did the right thing. they tried to disengage, and when that didn't work, they told somebody. you're a miserable little shit who couldn't admit to his homosexual desires, and go about them like an adult man. and don't you now dare to try and defend it by blaming some other guy. oh yeah, and the booze. always so handy; a safe all-american excuse on which to blame one's failings.
how about you blame them on your weak character instead, you slimy chickenhawk?
HAVE YOU EVEN APOLOGIZED TO THE BOYS?
i don't want to hear any more about you. go away. and take that arsehole hastert with you. you're all such small, rotten men.
i don't want to hear that you've been abused by a clergyman when you were a young teenager. i don't even know whether to believe you. i think you've handily grabbed onto the best defense you could find -- blaming your actions on somebody else abusing you when you were a child. because who wouldn't be horrified at that, who wouldn't feel for you? somebody else infected you with teh gay! couldn't have just sprung up on its own, could it. certainly not in a republican. yowza.
i tell you who wouldn't feel for you. this survivor of child sexual abuse. this one who dragged zirself through the initial humiliation of admitting the shame to a counselor. who worked zir ass off to overcome the cycle of abuse and violence. who never laid a hand on another person without their consent, who developed a consent fetish, who to this day makes damn sure any advance, even just a geek-flirty one, is wanted. who is worried about the very first geek-flirty ones because they might impose discomfort on the other person. who wouldn't dream of coming on to a teenager. not because they're "children" -- they're not. not because sex is dirty -- it's not. not because gay sex is an abomination -- it's not. but because i have some bloody self-control and know what is and isn't appropriate.
you bastard. shame, shame, shame on you. even if you were abused. that's no excuse. you have been an adult for years. you should have fought against trying to do the very thing that was (maybe) forced onto you. you should have sought counseling (whether or not you had been abused, when you felt the first stirrings of making out with 16-year old boys over whom you had power). but no; you had to screw around with them instead. you had to abuse your position of power to make advances on people barely old enough to handle themselves in normal sexual situations for that age. they did well, you know? they did the right thing. they tried to disengage, and when that didn't work, they told somebody. you're a miserable little shit who couldn't admit to his homosexual desires, and go about them like an adult man. and don't you now dare to try and defend it by blaming some other guy. oh yeah, and the booze. always so handy; a safe all-american excuse on which to blame one's failings.
how about you blame them on your weak character instead, you slimy chickenhawk?
HAVE YOU EVEN APOLOGIZED TO THE BOYS?
i don't want to hear any more about you. go away. and take that arsehole hastert with you. you're all such small, rotten men.
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on 2006-10-04 05:32 (UTC)Neither alcoholism nor abuse (presuming either is actually relevant) excuses the man from the consequences of his actions, and if he tries to weasel out of anything... I can't even think.
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on 2006-10-04 05:33 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-10-04 06:11 (UTC)Next up: Foley says Bill Clinton Made Him Do It. Film At 11.
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on 2006-10-04 06:15 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-10-04 11:13 (UTC)And the chocolate ration has been increased to 20 grammes.
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on 2006-10-04 11:24 (UTC)This weeks news is infuriating me.
n.
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on 2006-10-04 09:50 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-10-04 13:07 (UTC)spin spin spin
But oh, how much worse it was when Bill Clinton had sex with Monica Lewinsky.
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on 2006-10-04 13:29 (UTC)(ducking and running hard)
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on 2006-10-04 17:41 (UTC)though frankly, the power imbalance of that didn't fill me with wholehearted "you go, peckerhead" either. and how he behaved when it came out, that just made me dislike him fervently. "i did not have sex with that woman". clinton's just another mealymouthed arsehole, if you ask me. is this just par for the course in people who rise to that level of power through this particular system? no, i guess not -- carter remains my shining light in all of this miasma.
the hypocrisy of the self-righteous republicans with similkar or worse skeletons in their closets attacking him for it, that's on a whole 'nother level of sleaze.
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on 2006-10-04 14:03 (UTC)Foley, take responsibility for your actions and face the consequences. Most of us do that every day of our lives.
and while I am at it: How convenient this has come to light to overshadow the loss of legal protections. The one who has yet to make a good choice is going to decide who is a terrorist and who can be tortured?!
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on 2006-10-04 17:02 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-10-04 14:23 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-10-04 15:16 (UTC)About this:
this survivor of child sexual abuse. this one who dragged zirself through the initial humiliation of admitting the shame to a counselor. who worked zir ass off to overcome the cycle of abuse and violence.
I don't recall knowing this about you before. It adds to my already considerable respect for you.
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on 2006-10-04 17:47 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-10-04 20:46 (UTC)As for the first point, I haven't been paying really close attention to the news but did this creep have any inappropriate physical contact with these kids, or is it "just" about totally revulsive communications with subordinates who are also minors? I'm just not wild about the prospect of a lifetime of jail and asylums for someone just on the basis of profane words.
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on 2006-10-05 04:05 (UTC)yeah, i am not too keen on years in jail for sexy talk either, but i do want him to get slapped mightily for the abuse of power.
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on 2006-10-05 08:37 (UTC)no subject
on 2006-10-04 18:16 (UTC)http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/get-your-lawyers-foleygate-scandal.html
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22826_Fever_Swamp_Blogs_Hid_Foley_Evidence&only
The labelling of him as a Democrat on Fox News was a bit disengenous too.
Back to Habeas Corpus going "poof" in the States.....
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on 2006-10-05 04:07 (UTC)it's not surprising that they'll do anything but ask that foley take responsibility, of course. taking responsibility isn't fashionable anymore with the republican party and its apologists.
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on 2006-10-06 18:24 (UTC)