ixnay on ableist language
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spurred by a post from the ever-thoughtful
coffeeandink i think it's time that i attack my own ableist language. for example, i use terms such as "lame" and "dumb" to disparage myself, and i believe i should stop. not with the disparaging, mind, but with side-swiping disabled people while i am doing it.
i'd never call a person with a disability "lame" or "crippled" to their face (or behind their back, or even just in my mind), and i thought that was good enough. i also used the justification that those terms i liked best were outdated. but i missed the fact that they still carry their history, and that people who're living with a disability are often all too aware of the history and of its remaining echoes, and how that affects their treatment today.
saying "that was a lame excuse", or calling some software "cripple-ware", or using metaphors such as "the government remains deaf and blind to the plight of native peoples" still support society's negative attitudes and often false beliefs about disability. and why in the world should disabled people be designated the go-to folks for us temporarily abled folks expressing the particular suckiness of a situation? that seems quite wrong to me. and it goes deeper than being wrong because it hurts their feelings; it's also wrong because it reduces them to this one sucky thing, and because it gives altogether a false impression of what living with a disability is like.
while it'll take some getting used to (old habits are hard to break), i don't consider it a hardship to do without those terms -- it's not like english has a shortage of colourful words if i really feel moved to insult. heck, it could be a fun challenge to come up with good ones that don't put down an already disadvantaged group.
here's my starting list of words to no longer use to disparage something or somebody: blind, crazy, cretin, crippled, deaf, dumb, idiot, imbecile, insane, lame, moron, paranoid, psycho, retarded, schizo, spaz, stupid, using something as a crutch. please call me on them if you notice a slip-up. and you might consider your own use, at least in my journal. i am not gonna police them, but i appreciate mindfulness and support for a habit change.
i don't doubt there are more words like that; feel free to share any you think are problematic, and why. i am consolidating comments on dreamwidth because i want to keep them all in one place for this.
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i'd never call a person with a disability "lame" or "crippled" to their face (or behind their back, or even just in my mind), and i thought that was good enough. i also used the justification that those terms i liked best were outdated. but i missed the fact that they still carry their history, and that people who're living with a disability are often all too aware of the history and of its remaining echoes, and how that affects their treatment today.
saying "that was a lame excuse", or calling some software "cripple-ware", or using metaphors such as "the government remains deaf and blind to the plight of native peoples" still support society's negative attitudes and often false beliefs about disability. and why in the world should disabled people be designated the go-to folks for us temporarily abled folks expressing the particular suckiness of a situation? that seems quite wrong to me. and it goes deeper than being wrong because it hurts their feelings; it's also wrong because it reduces them to this one sucky thing, and because it gives altogether a false impression of what living with a disability is like.
while it'll take some getting used to (old habits are hard to break), i don't consider it a hardship to do without those terms -- it's not like english has a shortage of colourful words if i really feel moved to insult. heck, it could be a fun challenge to come up with good ones that don't put down an already disadvantaged group.
here's my starting list of words to no longer use to disparage something or somebody: blind, crazy, cretin, crippled, deaf, dumb, idiot, imbecile, insane, lame, moron, paranoid, psycho, retarded, schizo, spaz, stupid, using something as a crutch. please call me on them if you notice a slip-up. and you might consider your own use, at least in my journal. i am not gonna police them, but i appreciate mindfulness and support for a habit change.
i don't doubt there are more words like that; feel free to share any you think are problematic, and why. i am consolidating comments on dreamwidth because i want to keep them all in one place for this.
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on 2009-06-21 07:03 (UTC)I didn't even realise cretin was problematic. (Not that it's a word I've ever used to begin with.) Same with spaz. I only realised a few years ago that it came from spastic, which referred to people with cerebral palsy. The only way I'd ever heard it used was to mean airhead, so I had assumed it was a made-up word.
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on 2009-06-21 08:29 (UTC)- when someone does something unutterably foolish (e.g a bit of particularly dangerous driving) I'll call 'em a "peanut". Doesn't really mean anything, but it can be interpreted as referring to the size of any relevant attribute that one may wish to comment negatively on, and is nicely explosive when said with a bit of emotion behind it.
- rather than referring to an action or person as "retarded" or "insane" I'll take it a step further and wonder if they're in fact brain-dead. I suppose from one point of view it's the ultimate disability, being basically dead; but it seems to me to be less offensive than some of the alternatives. I'm not sure about that one, though, so if someone feels bothered by it, I'd welcome hearing about it.
- one I've recently picked up from re-watching West Wing - "Jackass!" is a nicely emphatic expression of annoyance, and I think fairly safe on the ableist front..?
What expressions have you come up with that work for you and avoid ableist language? If you've got anything better than anything I've come up with, I'm all ears. I'm having difficulty in particular finding viable alternatives for "stupid" type phrasings that don't sound rather a bit Mary-Poppins-y for my tastes... "well, darn! That was inconvenient. And isn't that person being uncooperative and rumbunctious?" I mean, it gets the point across, kinda, but does lack vehemence. :-7
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on 2009-06-21 09:41 (UTC)stupid
on 2009-06-21 23:10 (UTC)who is forbidding you or anyone else anything? do you think you know better than i know what's good for me?
do you really believe millions of working people voted for george bush because they were lacking in intelligence? lacking in which intelligence? have you examined whether they had different reasons from you? all you can think of is that they have no reasoning? that basically shows lack of imagination and insight into human behaviour on your part.
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on 2009-06-21 11:25 (UTC)Of the words on your list, the one that stumps me most for a suitable replacement is 'paranoid'. 'suspicious' is the closest that I've come up with, but it's not good enough. Roget's is no help, either.
paranoid
on 2009-06-21 22:02 (UTC)Suspicious is sometimes good. Where I use the term, I'm usually referring to exaggeration of other people's criticism, pretending to be persecuted, or treating criticism as ad hominem attacks. I suspect that for me the best replacement would be to just say those things rather than rolling them into paranoid.
I think it's a great idea to stop using terms for mental illness as general insults, although I'm going to have a hard time doing that. But I think it may be worth the effort. Another benefit for me will be that it will discourage me from doing armchair psychoanalysis, which is nearly always a bad idea.
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on 2009-06-21 22:47 (UTC)"conspiracy theorist"
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on 2009-06-21 12:45 (UTC)'Insane' as 'outside of ordinary human behaviour' is another word I would find hard to replace. I would not and do not use it for mental illness, and my more than I use stupid for people with a low IQ. Of the list, stupid is the word I can imagine least to not use because I do not see any alternatives (at least not ones that are more insulting.)
I'm uneasy with calling _people_ stupid, because that contrasts with my use of it; but stupid ideas and actions are part of all our lives.
If this was a stupid thing to say, I apologise.
Re: ixnay on the ableist language
on 2009-06-21 23:04 (UTC)"insane" i've never really used much because i had a mother who was actually insane, and it bothers me if people throw it around willy-nilly for things that are not at all insane, but just outside their own limited experience.
yes, "stupid" will be hard for me to change. but it's a cheap and lazy word, and it will actually be more helpful to me to dig down a bit about a "stupid" action of mine and see what's underneath. was it really lacking in intelligence? which kind of intelligence? was it careless? reckless? thoughtless? lacking judgment?
i am generally strongly privileging logical and linguistic intelligence, and need to work on that as well. cutting out "stupid" will give me a small jerk every time i am inclined to use it, and make me think instead.
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on 2009-06-21 13:50 (UTC)here's my starting list of words to no longer use to disparage something or somebody
it's the disparage part that rings true to me. but also why I won't feel uncomfortable using 'lame' in a descriptive fashion e.g. (all applied to myself) 'lame back, lame knee, two lame feet but I am as as yet only partially disabled'. wish I had my OED with me. I'd like to see some usage history for some of these.
in the mean time, you may want to add 'pariah' to your list. still quite an offensive word in tamil. and by extension I'm thinking about my usages of 'out-caste' and 'untouchable'.
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on 2009-06-21 22:52 (UTC)"pariah" is in my idiolect as an appropriated, offensive word already, and i don't think i've ever used it as an insult. ditto for "untouchable" and "out-caste"; they're not words i use because they only have intellectual meaning for me, not practical one.
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on 2009-06-22 07:15 (UTC)hmm. I was thinking more of the non-disparaging, descriptive uses of the words. e.g. social pariah (or out-caste); pariah dog (an actual UKC category for several breeds of purebred dogs, as well as a generic term for feral dogs in south asia...but I drift, as none of these words are actually ableist.
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on 2009-06-22 07:45 (UTC)i'm familiar with "outcast", but that does not derive from the caste system, i'm pretty sure; it's got an old scandinavian whiff to it. about to go to bed, or i'd look it up. :)
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on 2009-06-22 11:38 (UTC)pleonastic FTW -- according to Carol Pozefsky who answered just this question here:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Etymology-Meaning-Words-1474/Etymology-Outcast.htm
"Outcast stems from the Scandanavian word casten which first appears in a 13th century book called Ancrene Riwle . Casten meant 'throw' and was related to the Old Icelandic word 'kasta' also meaning to throw. The word 'castaway' as a noun appears before 1475 and 'outcast' simply one who is cast out (or thrown out) is first noted in 16th century English literature.
The prefix 'out' stems from the Old English word 'ut' The Middle Dutch uut, the Old High German uz and the Swedish and Norwegian ut and Danish ud. They all mean the same thing, OUT!"
I do note with interest however that it has subsumed the meaning of it's homophone (out-caste) and for that matter, that of pariah as well. it's times like these that I really miss my OED, cause again, I'd like to look at usage patterns for both outcast and pariah since it seems that the former only preceded the latter by a century in being assimilated.
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on 2009-06-21 14:32 (UTC)It's funny how common, short words can express emotional power, but so can rare, longer words: I'm a big fan of "egregious."
Nellorat from LJ
stupid
on 2009-06-21 22:39 (UTC)i think "jerk" is ok, as are "wanker", "twit", "git", if i need a short insulty word. in most situations of course, i don't actually need an insult, but better descriptive words. yeah, "egregious" is a fine example.
Re: stupid
on 2009-06-21 22:53 (UTC)Re: stupid
on 2009-06-22 07:05 (UTC)just that i also need some short, sharp ones, because "stupid" has such a great cadence. that's why "git" is so good, and as you said, it can easily be extended. i like "rotter" too, but that's definitely a briticism. or "dolt". or "blockhead".
Re: stupid
on 2009-06-22 11:40 (UTC)no subject
on 2009-06-21 18:03 (UTC)no subject
on 2009-06-21 22:37 (UTC)i am sorry if i ever did use it within your hearing and it hurt you.
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on 2009-06-21 20:05 (UTC)I would speak in defense of only one word on your list: "idiot". I couldn't easily find anything charitable to say about Henry Goddard or his works and the long-term impact they have had on our language. (And, while on that subject, "imbecile" and "feeble-minded" are the companions of "moron" and "idiot" and I suspect that you would wish them on your list.) But "idiot" had a longer history, originally meaning one whose education did not provide the ability to appreciate a well-reasoned argument more than a poorly-reasoned one. That's a powerful concept, and one that we would use every day if there were a word for it. (I am often regretfully reduced to "rabble", and perhaps you don't think much of that either. ^_^) I suppose that nothing good would come of trying to reclaim it, but it does seem like the one word that deserves to be buried in hallowed ground. Linguistic pejoration is teh suck.
ixnay on ableist language
on 2009-06-21 22:35 (UTC)what if a word has an even older history that would be useful? pity the word is lost for now, but it's just one word. what happens today is that people who are truly mentally retarded are misjudged, misinterpreted, and maligned, and i think my language can do without helping that attitude.
Re: ixnay on ableist language
on 2009-06-22 03:25 (UTC)As always, you have my respect for doing the right things for the right reasons. May the road rise up to meet you, and may the wind be ever at your back.
Re: ixnay on ableist language
on 2009-06-22 06:29 (UTC)yes, exactly -- one loses opportunity for dialogue, and that's just self-defeating. i mean, how did it occur to me to think calling bush voters stupid was a good idea (frustrated anger isn't enough justification), when i also called bush stupid for his attitude of not talking with states he doesn't trust, such as iran? in principle it's the same thing.
i want to be on the side of the spectrum that treats people fairly, even if i don't like their attitudes, their beliefs, or even them as individuals.
the other thing that occurred to me is that calling people like bush "stupid" actually takes responsibility away from them. truly retarded people can't help it, they're not acting willfully that way; they just don't have the capacity for the sort of complex decisions expected from a president. bush isn't that kind of stupid. he might not be an intellectual giant, but he's not mentally retarded. and therefore he is damn well culpable for the terrible decisions he made. he could have known better, he did in fact know better at times, and he still did what he did.
he doesn't deserve to be called "stupid".
Re: ixnay on ableist language
on 2009-08-06 03:13 (UTC)no subject
on 2009-06-21 22:56 (UTC)If I use those words around you and it seems I did it less than consciously, feel free to point it out.
(I am likely to continue to use crazy, especially to refer to my own mental health issues. I am likely to continue to use stupid because I tend to think of it as referring to behavior that results from lack of paying attention, not as referring to a disability. However, I welcome counterarguments on either of those choices.)
Re: stupid
on 2009-06-22 06:52 (UTC)that in itself is probably enough reason to change it, *snicker. i don't think "stupid" is as directly related to a disability per se, but i can see in myself why i use it -- because i privilege linguistic and logical intelligence. and that's also something i need to work on.
i've noodled some more in various comments in this thread.
Re: stupid
on 2009-06-22 07:11 (UTC)it will actually be more helpful to me to dig down a bit about a "stupid" action of mine and see what's underneath. was it really lacking in intelligence? which kind of intelligence? was it careless? reckless? thoughtless? lacking judgment?
This makes a great deal of sense. And I like that it's a positive reason for avoiding certain language. (I'm all for not offending people by accident or thoughtlessness, but I like positive reasons.)
I like your examples about "Bush voters." Knee-jerk dismissal of people on one side of the political spectrum by people on the other side has distressed me for quite a while now. (Some people I feel very close to and who are no fools* are Bush voters. I can't just dismiss them. However, it's really difficult to get a dialog going.)
*Hm, what do we think of that word?
Re: fools
on 2009-06-26 04:30 (UTC)no subject
on 2009-06-22 05:42 (UTC)I pretty much have to keep a whole mental box dedicated to those words I unthinkingly picked up in elementary school as acceptable to use - retarded, moron, etc.
spaz
on 2009-06-22 06:44 (UTC)yeah, i think elementary school jargon is probably suspect by definition. :)
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on 2009-06-22 06:46 (UTC)no subject
on 2009-08-06 03:21 (UTC)no subject
on 2009-06-22 11:44 (UTC)a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-22 22:39 (UTC)definitely, a crutch is a tool, and a useful tool -- just like eye glasses and hearing aids. and yet, nobody uses glasses and hearing aids in the same negative sense (yes, there are insults about them, but nothing comparable to "you're using your religion as a crutch", i think). i wonder why that is. is there something more ... primal about mobility? for me there is, but i don't know whether that's a common thing.
Re: a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-22 23:32 (UTC)Re: a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-23 01:04 (UTC)The earliest microscopes used lens-making techniques borrowed from opticians. Bifocals are a couple of hundred years old.
Re: a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-23 01:26 (UTC)I think 14th century may still be relatively recent compared to crutch as a word in English, which may date back as far as the beginnings of Old English in the 5th century given the similarities of the word to a word in Old High German. But I don't have an etymological dictionary that can date it, and glasses certainly have been around for a while as well.
Re: a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-23 01:00 (UTC)I think there was at least one write-up in either the LJ or the DW
Re: a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-25 06:21 (UTC)I know it's also something
I'm floating around in the "starting to care about this issue"-o-sphere. One thing I've decided is important for me is getting rid of labelling (insulting and belittling) people, and focussing on actions and ideas. Not that that will necessarily make everything okay :-) but it's a useful mental exercise for me to try to think that way.
One of the Wiscon suggestions was "half-baked" for bad ideas and I immediately decided that when confronted with bad ideas poorly reasoned, I could say/write "that's not just half-baked, you haven't even got the right ingredients together". I don't want (anymore) to call bad ideas names that imply mental impairment, because most people I've met who had mental impairments do not (or could not) come up with the kind of spectacularly bad ideas I most want to be scathing of, and it's best to leave them well out of the argument.
One thing I wonder about the metaphorical associations of crutches vs glasses is: it's often bookish/academic bodies that use glasses. However physically decrepit, they often have high social capital from their bookish/academic tendencies.
Re: a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-25 07:32 (UTC)now,
the google has, as always, been helpful, and i found two writeups of said panel, Rethinking Disabling Metaphor:
http://sasha-feather.livejournal.com/309425.html
http://sophy.livejournal.com/1186437.html
apparently elise was on the panel. :) i haven't seen anything by her at all on it -- but it sounds like she has her plate overly full, so that's no surprise.
Re: a crutch is a tool
on 2009-06-25 07:57 (UTC)All credit to Sasha for the good crutch
on 2009-06-26 02:54 (UTC)Words can't express my glee at seeing this topic discussed in so many places, though that doesn't stop me from trying.