piranha: red origami crane (orizuru)
[personal profile] piranha
no big surprises. but i guess voting in a US election, even if i could, would present a huge problem:



the good news is that the paramour, while 3 pts to my right economically, is only 0.56 pts to my right socially. i rub off. ;)

the also -- by now -- unsurprising fact that obama is just slightly less authoritarian and socially progressive than mitt romney is probably something that by now no longer escapes any but the blindest apologists. that's pretty much my own biggest failure of the decade when it comes to political assessment before he got elected the first time. the whole "hope" razzle-dazzle managed to fool me thoroughly.

from the political compass.

on 2014-01-28 06:23 (UTC)
wild_irises: (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] wild_irises
I would love to see their criteria.

For all of Obama's legion of faults and disappointments, I can't see any justification for placing him that close to Romney. But then, I never believed he was anything other than a centrist politician.

on 2014-01-28 06:56 (UTC)
eagle: Me at the Adobe in Yachats, Oregon (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] eagle
I think it's more accurate than Obama is normally portrayed in the news media, which is down in the lower left somewhere (which is absurd).

That being said, I do suspect they may be too close for a slightly different reason. I think US Presidents act much more right-wing and authoritarian as president than they run as. Romney never became president, so if they're judging him on either what he said while he was running or what he did as governor of Massachusetts, I could see that comparing fairly closely to what Obama actually did in office (which was not what he said he would do on things like Guantanamo).

That means that if Romney had actually been elected, I think he would move sharply up and right.

on 2014-01-28 22:34 (UTC)
wild_irises: (not cynical enough)
Posted by [personal profile] wild_irises
I think it's way too easy to oversimplify Obama. I take the point that he has moved to the right and up, and some of the things he has done are completely horrifying and indefensible (the NSA policies and keeping Guantanamo open come immediately to mind, and they are hardly the only ones). Nonetheless, I don't see how he can accurately be placed next to Romney, even without allowing Romney's likely move to the right and up if he had won.

I think you also have to look at:

"If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin." (Of course, Romney could not say this, but he would hardly say, "If my esteemed opponent Barack Obama had a son ...")

"Marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol."

Support for gay marriage.

The deal with Iran, which is really important.

And the stealthy remarkable improvement in rights for trans people, which gets very little press even among trans bloggers.

I cannot imagine any of these things coming from Romney (okay, maybe when he was governor of Massachusetts, but he has long left that image behind).

on 2014-01-28 15:09 (UTC)
outlier_lynn: (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] outlier_lynn
Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36

I'm nearly in the bottom left corner. :)

on 2014-01-31 06:52 (UTC)
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Posted by [personal profile] graydon
I get economic -9.12 and social -8.10.

And here I'm in favour of a stronger monarchy, too.

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