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somebody on my flist rejoiced "we got another one" and linked to the minor news item of a catholic school principal getting charged with a misdemeanor because he was dressed as a woman, in fishnet stockings and black leather, with falsies, and "loitering" in an area known for drug trafficking and prostitution.

this bothers me.

i no longer feel schadenfreude over religious people getting caught with their pants down, so to speak, unless what they've done is abusive of another person, or they have actually been judgmental arses about the very thing they engage in before, and have censured other people for it. (there was a short period of time where i did feel like going "nya nya nya nya nyaaaa nya", but i got over it as my own religious upbringing mercifully receded into the mists of time.)

this isn't a priest abusing altar boys. it's irrelevant that he's a school principal; he did nothing bad involving a child.

what bothers me most is this: had "no reason for why he was in alley...dressed up in women's leather other than for prostitution."

how do they KNOW? maybe he just gets off on cross dressing in leather and walking around like that in public (and doing so in an area for prostitution makes sense because there at least he won't stand out too much). contrary to what idiots think even women who dress like this aren't "asking for it", unless they explicitly ask for it in so many words. and yeah, maybe he was looking for sex, but who says he did so for money? that's two hypotheticals, which is two too many as far as i am concerned. "loitering" should not be enough to charge somebody with prostitution. i want such laws off the books (heck, i want prostitution to be legal).

it sucks that an adult can't engage in harmless kinks without the serious danger of getting publicly humiliated. no wonder there are so many hypocrites; society forces its crummy hangups on people left and right.

us lefties should defend such people, even if they're catholic. maybe even more so then, because damn, they need more help to overcome the dumbfuck messages about sex which they get fed by their church.

on 2007-11-04 23:47 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dr-brat.livejournal.com
us lefties should defend such people, even if they're catholic. maybe even more so then, because damn, they need more help to overcome the dumbfuck messages about sex which they get fed by their church.

Thank you.

on 2007-11-05 00:11 (UTC)
jenett: Big and Little Dipper constellations on a blue watercolor background (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] jenett
I'm very much with you on this.

Also, when one persecutes for the harmless kinks to the same extent one does for the harmful ones, I wonder if that pushes people to take steps towards the more harmful urges they might have, if they're going to get in trouble for it anyway to pretty much the same extent. I'm pretty sure that's not a good move.

On the whole, I dislike the idea of potential crime. ("They did X, which in some number of cases, leads to Y, so we should treat it like Y")

on 2007-11-05 01:36 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] pyrzqxgl.livejournal.com
Yep.

on 2007-11-05 02:15 (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea (Default)
Posted by [personal profile] redbird
Quite. Catholic men have as much right to wear skirts as non-Catholics and women.

on 2007-11-05 05:08 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] selki.livejournal.com
"loitering" should not be enough to charge somebody with prostitution. i want such laws off the books (heck, i want prostitution to be legal).

Yup.

on 2007-11-05 15:43 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] 1ginko.livejournal.com
If the media is believable, he was sitting in his parked car. It was nearly Halloween. But ya know, even if it wasn't, they cited him because he "gave conficting stories".
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. If he wanted to dress up and walk the streets, that shouldn't be something someone gets arrested about. I see a major failure of the police to prove intent. I think they just wanted to ruin someone's career/life.

on 2007-11-05 22:07 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] crystlyte.livejournal.com
The fact that people generate these feelings for catholics makes me feel "icky". I don't understand the desire to see a group of people "punished".

on 2007-11-06 19:38 (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] post-ecdysis.livejournal.com
Gosh gee whiz, I wonder what would make these people engage in absurdly high-risk pseudo-nefarious behavior and making everyone look like a pervert instead of coming out of the closet and living an honest life that enriches everyone.

Here's a free clue: if you believe that GLBT folk should not be persecuted, and yet you persecute a Christian GLBT folk because you think it's important to expose the hypocrisy, then you are a hypocrite. If you believe that some gay people should be ashamed of themselves, then I don't want to hear a single word that you have to say about Gay Pride.

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